United Ireland

[Hurricane Sterling]

Northern Ireland is a seperate country. Fuck all this chucky ar la shit.

 

[Jimmy the Gent]

Unionist-dominated Ulster is over: Are we on a demographic march towards Irish reunification?

The two major demographic consequences of the Troubles are the brain drain from all communities and the reinforcement of voluntary segregation, sometimes because of intimidation

www.irishtimes.com

Interesting read

 

[jimmym]

Unionist-dominated Ulster is over: Are we on a demographic march towards Irish reunification?

The two major demographic consequences of the Troubles are the brain drain from all communities and the reinforcement of voluntary segregation, sometimes because of intimidation

www.irishtimes.com

Interesting read

Many will vote with their pocket, in the event of a referendum people will want all the facts on the table.

 

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I think the people of northern Ireland should learn to live with each other first before deciding what they want

 

[Mike Strutter]

I spent the summer there. Certainly an eye opener!!
Never seen so many Union Jacks flying proud in most north Antrim villages and towns. Made me feel very uncomfortable!
Negotiations will only begin if EVERYTHING is up for negotiation.
One thing for sure it’s not just a matter of joining the ROI.
The flag and anthem will change, the new country would probably be just called Ireland.
Where will the capital be? Dublin, Belfast or even Cork.
That’s just scratching the surface.
What else is up for grabs???

It’s not on the radar for the average Joe ‘back on the mainland’.
Irish / British history wasn’t on the curricula, might be now.
History lessons focussed on the victorious and triumphs, on the Industrial Revolution with WW1 and WW2 thrown in for good measure.
I don’t blame the British public for their ignorance, more due to the lack of diversity in the educational system.

Point highlighted by the history lesson administered by Geordan Murphy to the England rugby team prior to the Croke Park match in 2007.

It is in some schools. I know a girl in a school who told me that 20% of her history studis is based on Irish history and the Troubles. She hates Thatcher. Fair going for an 18 y.o daughter of a second generation Irish mother.

 

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Questioning the language used towards unionists by unity supporters, Marshall said those who are most passionate on the subject have “often gone wrong with selling the proposition”.

“If I go to a salesman on the Boucher Road today and I’m looking at a car. He’s trying to sell me a new car, he doesn’t tell me that the car I have is rubbish. He doesn’t tell me that the car I have is unfixable. He tells me that he’s going to sell me something better.










“That’s what unionism needs to hear. Unionism needs to hear that there is a better option. And it’s not aspirational or based on ideology. It needs to be based on facts,” said Marshall.
Pro-unity nationalists must engage in efforts to make Northern Ireland work, if they want Unionists to engage in conversations about Irish unity, a former Ulster Unionist Party member of the Seanad has said.

“The UK union is not over. A Border poll is not imminent. Unity is not inevitable and we need to say so. But, equally so, neither is the future of the UK union cast iron,” said Ian Marshal

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“It’s easier for political unionism to sell the status quo because it’s tangible and they know what they have. It’s very much harder for those supporters of Irish unity to sell that because it’s still aspirational,” he went on.

The “biggest single challenge” facing both countries over the next decade is “the collapse of public trust” that has taken place in the body politic, which will affect any debate about unity takes place, Marshall said.

“Politics is failing to meet the intergenerational challenges, yet Westminster, Stormont, and the Oireachtas operate on four- or five-year electoral cycles that reward short-term headline-grabbing and populism over long-term strategic delivery,” he said.

Divisions worsened by Brexit and social media has “pushed people into silos”, he said: “You’re Leave or Remain. It’s London or Brussels. It’s union or unity. It’s east-west or north-south”.

“What is needed is not just new politics, but a new political culture and a new language, one that values long-term thinking, cross-party collaboration, co-operation, respect, and courage to tell citizens the difficult truth.”

Unity supporters must be prepared to make Northern Ireland work, says leading unionist

‘A Border poll will come at some stage, but that’s not where we are now’, former UUP senator tells SDLP conference

www.irishtimes.com

This is precisely the mistake Republicans have made for the last 3 decades as a consequence of their failed 50+1 "strategy".

I would also add that yet again, no one including varadkar makes any reference to the downsides for us in the Republic, as well as the continuing rampant unresolved sectarianism in NI.

 

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https://twitter.com/x/status/2070916384964378961

 

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https://twitter.com/x/status/2070978538619211971

 

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