The Highway Man
Full Member
At the Going down of the Sun, we shall remember them, we shall remember Cork Hurling.
RIP.
RIP.
I’m chatting with people about hurling morning noon and night every day of the week. The only place I come across someone saying anything other than rebel og has to go is on proc. It is a disaster. Full stop. There are better development models.I agree that it's worth bearing in mind that Cork's underage teams are in general far better than a decade ago (particularly for those posters who are inclined to write Rebel Og off as a disaster zone)
Winning a minor should be good for senior team prospects if the guys over them at U-20 and Senior levels know what they're doing and based on the transition being quick enough with those players. It made a successful difference under Bertie Troy, Johnny Clifford and the Cannon but they were superior managers/coaches and didn't believe in rocket science. Winning the 2021 minor and 2023 U-20 AI's should mean progress for the seniors if the transition of players is done correctly but so far it hasn't unfortunately.I’m chatting with people about hurling morning noon and night every day of the week. The only place I come across someone saying anything other than rebel og has to go is on proc. It is a disaster. Full stop. There are better development models.
For the 50th time I’ll say here that underage team success is not a predictor of success at adult level, so praising Cork GAA for winning a forristal or a minor means little to the senior team prospects
A very valid point in fairnessWinning a minor should be good for senior team prospects if the guys over them at U-20 and Senior levels know what they're doing and based on the transition being quick enough with those players. It made a successful difference under Bertie Troy, Johnny Clifford and the Cannon but they were superior managers/coaches and didn't believe in rocket science. Winning the 2021 minor and 2023 U-20 AI's should mean progress for the seniors if the transition of players is done correctly but so far it hasn't unfortunately.
Won 4 AI's at adult level in the last 4 years and can't translate it to senior. Lots of reasons why this is the case but there are too many in charge who are in denial of reality.Like last weekend the Cork players gave it their all. And I’m proud of their efforts.
I don’t blame them at all for the shortcomings. We have these deficiencies in Cork hurling at adult level (U20 is adults) for the last 30 years.
I’ve been a big supporter of his, even on proc, but things are so bad in Cork GAA now that I think Kevin O Donovan’s position is in jeopardy and if it isn’t it should be.Won 4 AI's at adult level in the last 4 years and can't translate it to senior. Lots of reasons why this is the case but there are too many in charge who are in denial of reality.
There should be a process of promotion/demotion, in other words if a manager/coach wins with a county U-15 team he should be promoted to the U-16 team etc. When the team win the AI at U-20 it can't take too long in transition to senior like it has unfortunately over the last 4 years.A very valid point in fairness
But I don’t think rebel og is producing guys off its production line with the right attributes and basics to be senior inter county all winning standard, regardless of who is seeing after em after minor.
You know what I mean Corkonian.. we don’t really have the underage super stars anymore, these would have been the superstars of the future.. You’d know when they were 18/19 that they’d make it and some would be on the senior side already
Isn’t that what happens reallyThere should be a process of promotion/demotion, in other words if a manager/coach wins with a county U-15 team he should be promoted to the U-16 team etc. When the team win the AI at U-20 it can't take too long in transition to senior like it has unfortunately over the last 4 years.